Your feelings are not fact. I sense Saggi. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. To be honest, few people overcome Nessus. Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. You have such a sweet spirit. 9. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, Yes, I was thinking about this. Who does whom, so to speak? Please post the charts. Thanks for your posts Ami. the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). I suppose I should add that. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. It is valued! Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? Well, I have been thinking about the situation. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. You made my day, Juice and Welcome! We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. 2021 - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. Your articles hit me hard again:-). My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. Also, It doesnt suit me. What are your thoughts? My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). However, there is a flip side. Will be keeping my wits about me. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. That doesnt mean youve never been married. Do you know what these aspects could mean? Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. I am not surprised this happened to you. These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. Can it be dangerous amiann? I agree with Sydney. To me, it always is. Required fields are marked *. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. This will be HOT. That`s very interesting information. My Pluto opposite his Moon. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. It is real to be neutral. I read some things. If I had read this as a 14-16 year old, I wouldve been waiting everyday for my mother to start emotionally, mentally, or physically abusing me, and it would have put me in a constant state of fear because I didnt know much about astrology or how complex and fluid it is. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Eros isnt making any connections to either Dejanira or Nessus though. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. Hi Amiann . To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. What is your opinion on Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 This is not a dark aspect, either. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Could it be a past life meaning? In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. I've found that the Eros person has a "crush" on the planet person. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. would you please shed some light as you see fit? His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. I mean, a persons life is complicated. Knowing more. I was wondering how much weight can have the orbit in a synastry.. for example, I have with a guy a Venus trine Pluto, but 5.46 orbit.. does it counts? The chart never lies, my Friend. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. ? It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. That is why it is so powerful. He may abuse her and it would be seen publicly. <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. Eros in a synastry chart. If you see Moon oppose or square Pluto, dont play with the person. Great primal connection with fighting lol. Thanks :), I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? That is what I was saying. I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. so, quick question, where do I post it? What does that mean? Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. Any comments will help. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. Thank you for your words. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. Would appreciate some insight!! 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. Sydney, you are amazing. I know my life, and what manifests in it. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. 10. How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. under what theme of the forum? Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. Amazingly accurate. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. I have to always be honest. Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. That never ceases to amaze me, either! He may have little sympathy for her weakness. I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. The conjunction is excact. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. I just want to let people know that things are not as clean cut and set in astrology as it is written sometimes because things that are presented as the only possible, likely truth will make people will fear astrology and the people around them if they look into isolated aspects from small asteroids and planets alike. Eros in synastry Tell me, what is it like? Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring, changing our lives in intense and lasting ways. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. Which probably held it together for SO long. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. However, if you want me to help you to find Jesus, that is why I am here. My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. for example a 1.46.. or 2? . Thank you Ivs. Are they married, Lo. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? What does that mean? Thank you again. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. But interested to see how things unfold. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. I just never have, not that it is not good. When these relationships end, it is not pretty. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? It exposes our weaknesses and provides us a chance to deal with them constructively. Your words mean a lot to me! They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. In fact, it is the opposite. Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. If one person's Sun is conjunct Saturn and the other persons Eros is opposite Pluto, the contact will be quite different than if the Sun was conjunct Jupiter and Eros opposite Venus. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. How does that play out? I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects However, if you have Nessus/Dejanira and Mars/Uranus, particularly in hard aspect( opposition and square), it may make for dark spice, shall we say. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) I am prone to being attacked in this way. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). They have transcended Nessus conj Dejanira, which is a new situation for me to see. I'm so cappy Knowflake . I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. Welcome, Ariel and great questions. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. Hardly. Everyone should have one once in a lifetime, I suppose. I have very wide-orbed Eros-Lilith contacts (not conjunctions) in my two last relationships (they are Eros, I'm Lilith), but both relationships were so 8th house-oriented and Plutonian that it's hard to tell where Lilith comes in. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. The puzzle pieces are coming together for me.. finally. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. I dont want to assume that having Nessus conj BML means Im going to be abusive in sexual relationships. So the theory doesnt check out. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? What I've read about Lilith makes it seem to me that she's sort of like the Feminine's Pluto with lots of primal sexual urges thrown in, so I'm sure she rooted herself comfortably into your already heavily Plutonic relationships. YOU are the most important person to me. Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. Thank you, amiann. Your email address will not be published. crap. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. "I want to welcome you to my website. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. It can ruin possible healthy relationships. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. It is like sky diving. Hi To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. Theyre both devoted and kind people and Ive known her since we were teens. If the man is the Dejanira, he would be the victim. There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. Just from reading this, I think it looks very good but I really need to see the wheel as it is easier. I have seen it in a few people, only. Mars conj Saturn is not good. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) This is not dark sexual, per se. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. I dont know too much about asteroids and wonder if the intense attraction I am feeling will fizzle as quickly as it came about or if it lasting. He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). (double-whammy..) Not eros. 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. That would be my guess. Who is whom? As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. As such, I would be careful and watchful. Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? One person is kind of riding the other one in this. Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. This is based on experience and charts, as are all my theories. Im not saying it is impossible for the aspects to play put for people, because a lot of times, you do see it come into play, but really only when ones own natal supports that factor with aspects between actual planets. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. What conjuncts your Aura? . The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. Is this a synastry, Ariel? With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! How would it play out if my boyfriends Dejanira is conjunct my venus/juno conjunction but my venus/juno is part of a grand trine with my midheaven and also my moon/Bella/mars/pluto conjunction? It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. This brings out their dark side. What about this aspects? I am one person with one persons experience, of course. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. I hear your concern. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Thats your opinion. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . First of all Lilith is for . It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. What do you think? With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. It seems like sexual abuse is an emotional theme that I am working with in this life. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? Talk about deep dark sexual desiresTremendous sexual need to control. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. Mars pluto aspects it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? . I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. Maybe also Mars/Uranus? With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. I am not asking you to do mine either. We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. And Great questions. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. It is very, very powerful. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. Oops, sorry Amiann. Please, keep giving your opinion. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. Hardly. so what would it be? I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. Partners switch roles? The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. These are too many questions for text. Eros: Synastry Aspects . Dejanira trines my Ascendant. Welcome, Britt. It is really rocking my world right now <3. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. It was a relationship based on dates and romance instead of the realities of life. (both in Capricorn) thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. Theyre still deeply in love and their synastry and composite charts support it. . YES. Posts: 9778 From: Death Star . You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. Thank you Ariel! It is sad! What would that mean? "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion?
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