Out of stock View Details . So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. If you match the bullet to the game, this is one of the all-time great hunting cartridges. This is because it was discontinued in the mid-1970s, and reintroduced by Remington in 2003. Thats the primary game for many of us, but one size doesnt fit all. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? The .318 Westley Richards was a highly popular choice at that time, and it drives a 250-grain bullet of .330-inch diameter, with a SD of 0.328, and the .375 Holland & Holland uses a 300-grain bullet of nominal diameter with a SD of 0.305; both are renowned for their penetration. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The quest for an acceptable .35 has inspired such impotent wastes as the .35 Winchester Self Loader, once labeled a candidate for the title: Worlds Most Useless Center-Fire Rifle Cartridge.. Synthetic stocks arent always lighter than wood, but they are stronger and more stable, and elk hunting can be hard on rifles. The 25-degree, 30-minute shoulder gives plenty of room for powder, and though the neck of the .358 Norma measures less than the desired one-caliberit comes in at 0.328-inchthere is plenty of neck tension to hold the bullets in place without the need for crimping. Don't like Rugers much had my fill of them and now they are gone down the road. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. Of course, not all .35-caliber cartridges approach greatness. The .35 Rem. Also as I have a lot of 357 pistol bullets I was figuring on being able to use them as reduced loads/smaller game options in either big 35 cal should I go that route. I have built all 3 several times for various customers and owned both the 358 Norma and the 9.3X62. ), but with considerably less recoil. Essentially the .338 Winchester Magnum necked up to hold .358-inch bullets, the .358 Norma Magnum made all sorts of sense to a hunter in pursuit of large game, such as elk, moose and the great bears of the north. For the next year, comparisons were inevitable between Johanssons Hammer of Thor and the .358s powerful 250-grain bullet. But there is no compelling reason to consider a caliber larger than .35. Boltface would have to be altered for the Norma. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Reloading Centerfire Ammunition: Tips For Getting Started, Shooting and Loading the 6.8x43 mm Rem. Where the .338 Winchester drives its 250-grain bullet to 2650 fps, the .358 Norma beats that figure by 100 fps or so, delivering over 4,200 ft.-lbs. Here in North America, you could take the .350 Rigby anywhere youd take the .35 Whelen or .358 Norma Magnum, and that includes north to Alaska for the great bears. The .356 Win. Tried and true. Both calibers share the same dimensions of the case head as the .300 H&H Magnum, but have far less body taper, resulting in the same internal capacity in a shorter case. was designed for the American market, but sadly no American riflemaker ever chambered the cartridge in a cataloged gun. Throw a belt on the .35 Newton and you couldnt tell the difference three feet away. We argue cartridges and calibers endlessly, but bullet choice matters. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. In the shooting sports we call that reaction recoil or "kick." Hornady has a Superformance load with a 200-grain SP at 2910 f.p.s. i have a 35 whelen and love it. That load has a maximum optimal range on 1000 pound game (like a big Alaskan moose or brown bear) of 151 yards. If the .35 Rem. Its also worth noting that, in spite of its relative obscurity, the cartridge appears in many of the most recent loading manuals, including Normas own, a worthwhile addition to anyones reloading library. The .358 Norma Magnum, like the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan, generates a considerable amount of energy, but due to the caliber restrictions for dangerous game of most of the African countries, it falls shy of the markthe .375-inch bore is minimum for many countries. But starting in the late 1950s, the .338 bore size gained considerable tractionthanks to the emergence of the .338 Winchester Magnum. Norma loads their 250-grain Oryx bullet to this velocity, and as the rear portion of the bullet is bonded, it will give an excellent blend of expansion and penetration. Even so, most experienced deer hunters have pretty good ideas on appropriate rifles. The bullet went in behind the near shoulder, struck the far shoulder from the inside, and the blue bull hit the ground with a thud. The .350 Remington Magnum is the only cartridge that appears on both lists of current and obsolete calibers. Also, after a few dozen elk hunts, Ive seen many taken effectively with lighter cartridges. loaded with a 180-grain Oryx bullet to the .358 Norma Mag. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. And, as any fan of the .35-caliber cartridges knows, there are quite a few bullet weights to choose from within the caliber. It can work in close or at a distance or dazzle you with footwork. Of the bullets used, several performed extremely well, including the Bear Claw and a Nosler 250-grain Partition. The rifle, cartridge, and bullet must be capable of handling that one opportunity. Sure, you can get away with it, especially with todays extra-heavy bullets, but I think its foolish. Loved by gun guys and rejected by the huddled masses, this is perhaps the most underappreciated cartridge of them all. The .35 Rem. At 300 yards, it has 19 percent more energy than the .300 Win. Not necessarily top dollar everything. Though still under construction, Im eager to take the classic cartridge into the hunting fields. Cartridges of .25 caliber and below are not ideal elk cartridges, especially if a big bull is a potential. That load actually produced 2825 f.p.s. You bet they worked! The big case certainly made its reputation with the 250-grain bullets, as their sectional density gives excellent penetration on even the heavy-boned animals, and the .358 Norma can push them to a muzzle velocity of 2750 fps. What keeps it alive? The .300 Rem. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. It put an exclamation point on that lung shot. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. There are specialized situations where close shots are the norm, but most often, the ideal elk rifle should have enough versatility for shots out to 300 yards and change. But there is another Rigby cartridge, vastly overlooked even among rifle cranks, but which was at one time as popular as the .375 H&H Magnum: the .350 Rigby Magnum. It will work in this action with ease and will be plenty cheap to feed and use if one simply sizes up 338 brass and goes along thier happy way. Coming from me, this conclusion may shock you, so let me give you another surprise. I have used the .35 Whelen on critters from bobcats to moose. The .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby deliver more energy, but all three are fine. Trust me, you could do worse, but youll be hard-pressed to do better! For the one perfect all-around elk rifle, Im not sure you can beat the good old .30-06. Ill bet its been awhile since those cartridges have been seen in a hunting camp. Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. The guide professed to be dumbstruck: I never saw a nilgai knocked down like that, he said, And we use some big rifles here!. I have shot a few critters, including a tough South Texas Nilgai, and have been happy with the performance. I have a .356 Win. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. I own several rifles in this cartridge and all my .35 Whelen rifles are accurate. As it was released in the first century of the . There are several reasons. The Swedish firm of A.B. But have owned multiple 9.3s and Whelens. The .350 can drive a 250 grain bullet to a MV of 2500 fps. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. The 600 Magnum suffered from a barrel that was too short at 18 inches. This new model featured two new cartridges, the .350 Rem. No, its not exactly easy on the shoulder, but its not terrible either. But in 2003 Remington decided to attempt a resurrection. The 6.5mm Creedmoor and the old 6.5x55 are sound minimal choices, adequate to 300 yards. I have one, and I like it a lot. But perhaps youre not after thick-skinned dangerous game. 358 norma mag is a rarer bird but as I understand fire forming 300 win mag brass an easy way to feed it. Ive obviously left the door wide open. 200-grain bullet to almost 2500 f.p.s. Common loads fire a 200-grain bullet at 2,800 fps (about 3,480 foot pounds of energy), a 225-grain bullet at around 2,600fps (3,380 foot pounds of energy . and .35 Rem., it was an excellent woods rifle for hunting whitetails. They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. It was introduced in the bolt-action Model 70 in which it was trustworthy, but boring. We owe a debt of gratitude to the engineers at the British firm of Holland & Holland; though it is lost to history who exactly designed the belted magnum cartridge, the .275 and .375 Holland & Holland Magnums were game changers. Choose at least medium weight for caliber: 140 grains in 6.5mm and the lighter 7mms; 140 and 150 grains in .270s; 150 to 160 grains in faster 7mms; 165 or 180 grains in .30 calibers. In cartridges, as in boxing, what goes on behind the scenes often determines the outcome. The .25 Rem., .30 Rem. would follow that tradition. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. For more specialized uses, Speer makes a 180-grain flatpoint (semispitzer)that, with reduced loads, turns the .358 Norma Magnum into a pussycat for recoil but is easily capable of handling game such as black bears and white-tailed deer out to 250 yards or so. Either of the other two cartridges mentioned will work just fine also. The .358 is vastly underated as the Whelen. There werent many factory .358 Norma Magnum rifles mademost were Husqvarnas or Schultz & Larsensbut many American gunsmiths converted the Mauser 98, Springfield 03-A3 and the like to the big .35, as it made an absolutely perfect choice for those headed north to Alaska. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. pushes a 200-grain bullet to just more than 2000 f.p.s. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. The .35 Whelen is a fine elk cartridge. and .32 Rem. Thinking of a medium bore with a bit of thump.9.3 x 62 holds some exotic mystique for me being its use on African large game but I am thinking realistically .366 cant be that much of an advantage over .358 can it? plowed fresh ground. The full spectrum of our many 7mms, from 7mm-08 and 7x57 on up to the fastest 7mm magnums, are also fine, but they are not magical giant-slayers. Think of the .358 Norma Magnum as the chunky cousin of the .338 Winchester Magnum; not quite as svelte or popular, but equally effective in a fight. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. In addition, for stopping the big predators of the world, it's hard to beat a suitable .35 caliber rifle. The most popular cartridges for hunting and even target shooting begin and end with the thirties. Thought about that 375 Ruger but nah. Thanks for any thoughts. It is a good choice for shooters who are very sensitive to recoil, since its free recoil energy is only about 4.5 ft. lbs. Lyman lists 47 different moulds that were available at one time or another, ranging in bullet weight from 70 to 282 grains. The Hornady Superformance load for the .35 Whelen launches a 200-grain bullet at a blistering. Here in North America big game starts with deer. Shorter and more common than the magnum-length receiver needed for the .375 and .300 Holland & Holland Magnum, the Winchester Model 70s and Remington Model 721s gave a new level of performance when chambered for the new magnums. and .358 Norma Mag.). Normas original spec sheet for the .358 Norma Magnum when it was released in 1959 indicated the cartridges ballistics. The .35 (.358) caliber has never really gotten a serious toehold here, although the occasional item like the .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum, or .358 Winchester roils the waters every now and again. Elk hunting can be extremely physicalnot only steep country, but also altitude and sometimes deep snow to buck. In the years since, the .35 Rem. The bullet was the then-new Trophy Bonded 250-grain Bear Claw. from my E.R. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. The case capacity of the .350 Rigby is very similar to that of the .358 Norma Magnum, and the performance is likewise similar. Maybe it's a regular BDL? Short of a wounded elephant or Cape buffalo in thick cover, there is no game I can think of for which you could not concoct a load in the .358. The .35-caliber cartridges usually top out at 250 grains, though if a 300-grain bullet at a slightly faster twist rate were employed, it would certainly be in the same class as the .375 Holland & Holland. In many areas a 100-pound deer might be normal, but mule deer and whitetail bucks exist that are triple that size. Quite honestly, the .350 Rigby isnt a cartridge Id describe as practical, but if you are looking for something quite left of center, this may be for you. Layne Simpson did an article on the comparison of the two and it was reprinted in Big Bore Rifles and Cartridge ISBN 1-879356-00-7. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. He never questioned the adequacy of his .270 for elk, nor do I, but he was also a lifelong .30-06 fan and privately conceded its superiority for elk-sized game. Its safe to say that of all the .358 Norma Magnum rifles in existence, there are more custom than factory ones, and this makes it tricky to load for in another way. figure of 0.300 is desirable, and comparing similar cartridges, youll see the .350 Rigby comes in a bit behind the other popular choices of the day. Moving down a notch and comparing the .35 Whelen (250 grain bullet at a MV of 2400 fps) to the .30-06 (220 grains at 2410 fps), which have nearly identical case capacity, we find that the optimum game range (OGW) on 1000 pound animals is 10 yards for the .30-06 and 100 yards for the .35 Whelen. Does the power of the magnum offer much over the whelen in real life terms? Thier wouldn't be any action mods required to do the Whelen,just rebarrel and enjoy. Size aside, American elk are very tough creatures. The original Schultz & Larsens were sold without iron sights, and they were installed on my rifle afterward. Is the .358 Norma Magnum a cartridge destined to make a huge comeback? as a way to boost the power of the Model 94 lever-action rifle. crying, My kingdom for a rifle.. In both cartridges, versatility is limited more by the narrow range of bullets available than by any other factor. Released in 1908, the .350 Rigby Magnum is an entirely original design, with no parent cartridge. Winchester still offers ammunition, but the guns are history. From the .35 Winchester (1903), .35 Remington (1906) and .351 Winchester Self-Loading (1907) to the later .358 Winchester (1955) and .350 Remington Magnum (1965), there has always been at least one .35-caliber cartridge in use. There have been many others, such as the .35-30 Maynard (both in the 1865 and the 1882 versions) and .35-40 Maynard. [/quote]. Had the .358 Norma Magnum been chambered in an American rifle, or at least promoted by an American company, the popularity of the cartridge may have been much greater than it is. .358 Norma brass is a snap to make from 338 Win Mag brass. I think Jack OConnor, the great champion of the .270, would agree. How it would have done on a live animal is impossible to say. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. To return to our boxing analogy, the .358 Norma Magnum not only has the Hammer of Thor, but it also offers an excellent jab, a good hook, a wicked uppercut and a variety of feints. The main problem with such potent cartridges is that they kick hard in rifles light enough to carry all day in steep places. Equal in importance is that you can hit the elk. With cast bullets, A-5744 and Trail Boss are usually the best choices, although H-4895 is a good powder for midvelocity hunting loads. Shaw will make a rifle, as will any other custom, or semi-custom, riflemaker. Bottles & 12-oz. 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The better ones create mild gallery or small-game loads that are economical, quiet, virtually without recoil and best of all a lot of fun to shoot. was included in that party is a mystery, as it had no Winchester counterpart. Winchester introduced its initial trio of belted magnums in the mid-1950sthe .458 Winchester Magnum, .338 Winchester Magnum and .264 Winchester Magnumand all were designed for the long-action receiver, using a case length equal or similar to the .30-06 Springfield. The Whelen is a more sensible choice, but the Rigby isnt about sensibility, its about nostalgia and a connection to a bygone age. My 8mm Remington Magnum was stocked in dense walnut and had a long barrel. An elk is bigger than anything most deer hunters have encountered, but theres still a variance; a cow for the freezer isnt much bigger than a very large deer, but a mature bull elk is different. That does not mean that any gunsmith who had his own ideas about velocity and accuracy might not include it or go completely the other way. Out of stock View Details . Campfire 'Bwana. Today, rifles can be made very light, but that can also be overdone because light rifles are whippy and hard to control when youre out of breath and have to settle in for a quick shot. That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. The ammunition hung on a while longer, but eventually Big Green abandoned her babies and stopped making both cartridges. In its 112-year lineage, it has probably taken more elk than all other cartridges combined. Norma Projektilfabrik answered Winchesters designs with a pair of their own: the .308 Norma Magnum and its slightly older brother, the .358 Norma Magnum. So when it comes to penetrating thick hide and heavy bone, one could see where the .350 Rigby could benefit from a heavier bullet, say a premium 250-grain with a SD of .279. When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win. This raises the obvious question: Why, with so many modern cartridges around of more or less equal power, chambered in readily available rifles, is there this lingering interest in, and loyalty to, the .358 Norma? I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. from the 24" barrel of a Marlin 336XLR rifle. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. Most were intended for .38-caliber handguns, but any bullet made for either the .38 Special or .357 Magnum can be loaded and shot in the .358 Norma Magnum with varying degrees of success. Every time I use it I ask myself, Whats not to like? Beats me, but nobody liked it enough to keep it in production. You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. With such a wide range of both cast and jacketed bullets available, and todays variety in powders, the .358 Norma has an embarrassment of riches when it comes to load possibilities. At 400 yds., the .358 Norma impacts 3.1 inches lower than the .300 Win. Mark Bansner is making one for me: synthetic stock on a left-hand Sako action. Federal loads the 225-grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2600 f.p.s. Perhaps, if the word gets out to the shooting public, the born again .350 may finally achieve the commercial success it deserves. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. As unmagical as that might sound, it's one of the hardest hitting non-magnum cartridges ever. But the .416 is certainly not the only cartridge to bear the Rigby surname; read the works of Walter Dalrymple Maitland Karamoja Bell, or Col. Jim Corbett and the .275 Rigbybetter known as the 7x57mm Mauserwill get all sorts of praise. All rights reserved. The nearest of any to the .358 Norma was the .35 Newton, which it closely resembles. The .358 Norma Mag. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I have used this cartridge on moose with excellent results. The .35 Whelen fires a larger .358 bullet and is therefore right at the cusp of being a big game caliber and is capable of handling everything except . That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. with a 250-grain Oryx bullet-both with a 200-yd. However, Winchesters .338 Magnum proved to be the darling of not only those bound for the 49th state, but for those hunting elk and moose at lower latitudes. The fortunate few who own them want to keep them, and these are the core admirers who make it worth Normas while to continue offering brass and loaded ammunition. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. These work, but my thinking has changed over the years. Mag. From the Green Goblin (a bolt-action rifle I built on a Remington action), both will produce groups that are sub-minute-of-angle. Original Schultz & Larsens had substantial freebore to keep pressures down, and Normas specifications for the cartridge called for it.
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